Richard Sternberg says ENCODE disproved junk DNA, therefore intelligent design

This is a video of a debate that took place in Kraków, Poland on June 2, 2023. The topic was "Intelligent design in nature—illusion or reality?" (Spoiler alert! - the answer is "illusion.") The participants were Michael Behe and Richard v. Sternberg for the creationists and Michael Ruse and Malgorzata Moczydlowska-Vidal for the science/philosophy side. The video is almost three hours long and I don't recommend watching the whole thing.

Ruse, as usual, is incoherant and more focused on religion and telling Christians how they should behave. The Polish paleontologist didn't do a very good job of addressing the claims of the creationists.¹ Michael Behe gave his standard pitch about irreducible complexity and the bacterial flagellum.

The interesting part was Sternberg's defense of intelligent design. I hadn't seen him before although I've been familiar with his writings over the past twenty years. His opening presentation begins at 17:50 and it's worth watching to see how important the junk DNA debate is to the ID crowd.

Sternberg begins by noting that he was skeptical of the arguments put forward by Richard Dawkins in "The Selfish Gene" where Dawkins says that 98% of our DNA is noncoding junk. (Dawkins never said any such thing!) Sternberg says that when he started looking for function in this part of the genome he found that it was replete with function. Then he brings up the ENCODE results and claims that they challenged the concept of a gene (not true). Sternberg says that the new definition of a gene is that it is polyfunctional and "constantly changing in real time." He says,

... how can you have a theory based on an entity that you cannot define and how can you discuss the evolution of something that is kind of this amorphous notion ...

Sternberg seems to think that redefining the gene shows that evolutionary biology is out of touch with reality. He claims that the discovery of the epigenome is futher evidence that there are multiple layers of information that take us far beyond the theory of neo-Darwinism that was crafted in the nineteen teens and the 1920s.

Sternberg reflects the views of many Intelligent Design Creationists who tout the "debunking" of junk DNA as one of their greatest intellectual achievements because they predicted all along that there couldn't be large amounts of junk DNA in our genome because that's incompatible with intelligent design. What's different in the case of Richard Sternberg is that the discovery of function in most of our genome is what led him to the position that design is the best explanation.

I find it strange that Intelligent Design Creationists are relying so heavily on the so-called debunking of junk DNA, especially since in Sternberg's case he is well aware of the fact that some prominent scientists have criticized ENCODE. It's a risky strategy to put so much emphasis on a result that may turn out to be wrong. If our genome is mostly junk DNA (it is!) then the major part of their argument for design falls apart.

From reading the ID literature, it seems that they are supremely confident that most of our genome will turn out to be full of function. It will be interesting to see how they respond when the scientific community concludes that 90% of our genome is junk. From my perspective, they are digging themselves into a deep hole that will be very difficult to climb out of. Maybe it's time to stop digging?

Sternberg made one quip that's worth highlighting. At about 1:46:20 he talks about a saying that he learned in the air force; you don't receive flak unless you're over a significant target. That's cute. He uses it to explain why intelligent design is coming under such heavy attack. He is, of course, correct. When you drop bombs on people you can expect them to get upset. When you attack some of the most important concepts in science you can expect some pushback. That doesn't mean your bombing is justified. If it were justified then scientists would embrace your criticisms instead of shooting them down.

Sternberg scores big at 2:51:11 when he asks, "Can there be Darwinian evolution ... or any evolution in general, without natural selection?" The correct answer is yes. Malgorzata Moczydlowska-Vidal says no and so does Michael Ruse. Ruse then goes on to explain why he dismisses random genetic drift. Sternberg then explains neutral evolution and Michael Lynch's drift-barrier hypothesis and why some biologists use them to explain some of the ID challenges. Sternberg (and Behe) appear to know more about evolution than their opponents.

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1. She concentrated on presenting evidence for the history of life but both Behe and Sternberg accept common descent and the correct age of the Earth.