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Tuesday, July 02, 2013

Keep Calm and Ask About Onions

Nick Matzke is going to the SMBE (Society for Molecular Biology and Evolution) meeting in Chicago next week. He's created a T-shirt for supporters of junk DNA [KEEP CALM and ASK ABOUT ONIONS].



22 comments :

Unknown said...

Larry, the link is broken, you need to remove the " at the end of the URL.

Larry Moran said...

Thanks. I forgot the quotation marks at the beginning of the URL.

Newbie said...

It's kind of ironic that puffer fish is listed on the shirt since it has no "junk DNA" even according to you.

Faizal Ali said...

And exactly how is this is a problem?

Mikkel Rumraket Rasmussen said...

The point isn't to list "genomes full of junk", but to highlight the large differences in genome sizes, which is one of the lines of evidence for junk.

Pedro A B Pereira said...

Another missed opportunity for Vashti to keep his mouth shut instead of making a fool of himself yet again. Guess that education in France isn't going too well after all.

Steve said...

A better blurb would've been :

Front:

The ONION test.

"Why different onions store different amounts of information"

Back:

ONION: So long and thanks for all the ...er, JUNK, ha ha!

Newbie said...

Keep Calm and Ask About:

Cell Volume
Adaptive Immune System
Influence Of Repetitive DNA On Physiology
Alternative Splicing
We Don’t Know What The Function Is Of “Junk DNA”
So It Must Be Junk Even If There Is Biochemical Activity.

Just Because Idiots Put It In The Trunk,
It Doesn't Mean IT Is Junk!!!

These are going to be my T-shirts. I guess it is going to be hard to miss me there next week

Newbie said...

lutesuite,

You tell you patients how many days longer they are going to live if you proscribe them statnis or this is not exactly your problem as long as you charge for a visit and as often as possible?

Newbie said...

Pedro Pereira,

Show me a university text book where it says that prevention reverses atherosclerosis better than statins? I'm sure you will.

Diogenes said...

Vashti sez: "Keep Calm and Ask About:

Cell Volume"

Onions, IDiot, onions. Does their cell volume vary in proportion to their huge variations in C-value? No? Then we win the debate.

Diogenes said...

"We Don’t Know What The Function Is Of “Junk DNA”
So It Must Be Junk Even If There Is Biochemical Activity. "

This was never an argument for junk DNA. This was a straw man constructed by witch doctor creationists and muggle reporters. If you could refute the positive arguments for junk, you would have. You didn't because you can't, so we win the debate.

Diogenes said...

Vashti says: "Influence Of Repetitive DNA On Physiology"

Onions, IDiot, onions. Does their physiology vary in proportion to their huge variations in C-value? No? Then go divine some goat entrails, witch doctor.

Newbie said...

Did I ever twisted your nickname? Ever? If not, why do you twist mine? Because I make you heartbeat skip a beat? Or because you really want to "believe"? If the latter, I don't care...

Newbie said...

Onions??? That's all you have??? Did you ever try Spanish onion? Or a red onion? I know you did but you did not pay attention to it. I'm a home-chef, and a pretty good one and I know why the onions were designed the way they were. You have no clue and you never will. I kind of feel sorry for maggots like you. Do you have any idea how much paxil I proscribe to this kind of product of evolution that makes their fitness close to zero?

Diogenes said...

Vashti tells us he's practicing eugenics on his unsuspecting patients: "I kind of feel sorry for maggots like you. Do you have any idea how much paxil I proscribe to this kind of product of evolution that makes their fitness close to zero?"

Creationists have never been able to control their urge to eugenics. See Germany 1938-45. They used the same language, "maggots", except those creationists wouldn't have said "product of evolution."

Can you please tell us what medical school you're going to? They should know you prescribe drugs to your "maggot" patients not on the basis of their health or well-being, but rather to implement your eugenic beliefs.

Mikkel Rumraket Rasmussen said...

I'm a home-chef, and a pretty good one and I know why the onions were designed the way they were.

O'rly? Did someone test that hypothesi? No? Would you care to submit that hypothesis for experimental testing? No? You just pulled that one out of your ass you said? Okay...

Cell Volume
Ad hoc reasoning. Instead of just inventing shit into thin air, test it.

Adaptive Immune System
Oh, you can list random terms and phrases from biology, I think I'm catching on now.

Influence Of Repetitive DNA On Physiology
Already known, doesn't in any way prove that what the evidence has told is is junk, suddenly isn't junk.

Alternative Splicing
Already know, doesn't in any way prove that what the evidence has told is is junk, suddenly isn't junk.

We Don’t Know What The Function Is Of “Junk DNA”
... but countless experiments have told us it doesn't do anything with any kind of impact on survival or development. But it doesn't stop there, because we also know how and why various cellular mechanisms would result in the accumulation of junk. So, despite much initial resistance to the idea from "adaptationists", we simply had to conclude, on the evidence, that most of it probably is junk.

So It Must Be Junk Even If There Is Biochemical Activity.
Except nobody goes through this kind of reasoning, it's an IDIOT strawman. As in, only an IDIOT would make and then believe in that strawman. One would make a special kind of idiot to frequent this specific blog and still MAINTAIN that strawman.

You are, apparently, such an IDiot.

Pedro A B Pereira said...

I'm not a doctor, neither was my comment regarding that issue.

Pedro A B Pereira said...

"So It Must Be Junk Even If There Is Biochemical Activity."

So lets see: I make a big ramdom sequence of DNA, add a bunch of enzymes, promoters, etc to the test tube, some of these will, by chance, obviously attach themselves to parts of the long DNA string that just happens to have matching sequences by chance and BUM, it's functional DNA?!?!

Do you have any actual arguments or do you just repeat IDiot non-sense that you read in creotard literature?

By the way, how's that revolutionary, paradigm-changing article that you'll be publishing soon comming along?

Pedro A B Pereira said...

EDIT: I meant activators (transcriptional), not promoters.

Diogenes said...

Where'd Vashti go?

Vashti said: "I kind of feel sorry for maggots like you. Do you have any idea how much paxil I proscribe to this kind of product of evolution that makes their fitness close to zero?"

No, Vashti, I don't, so fill me in. Educate me.

How much paxil, exactly do you prescribe [not proscribe] to your patients when you think they're maggots? Exactly what quantity. Precisely. In milligrams.

Pedro A B Pereira said...

"I kind of feel sorry for maggots like you."

What a benevolent, Christian soul! I guess he's more into Old Testament than New.