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Sunday, February 18, 2007

Does Darwinism (sic) Predict Anything

 
The collection of IDiots at Cornell University have put together a webpage called The Design Paradigm. It consists mostly of the usual whining by commentators who are afraid to use their real names on a blog. (In fairness, I would also be embarrassed to use my real name on some of those postings.) One anonymous IDiot asks Does Darwinism predict anything?

We’ve heard over and over again from the Darwinist side of this debate that ID offers no novel predictions. Intelligent design actually offers many intriguing and novel predictions (you can head over to ResearchID.org to see some of them), but what about Darwinism?

I would love it if some of our commentators or readers would offer what they think are predictions of Darwinism. The definiton of Darwinism that we’ll use is the following proposition:

"The origin and diversity of life has occured solely by undirected processes such as natural selection."

For a prediction to count, of course it will have to be one that only Darwinism makes.
These are supposed to be university students. The fact that they can't tell the difference between evolutionary biology and "Darwinism" speaks volumes about their intelligence. It's not as though the difference hasn't been explained over and over and over and over ...

The "definition" they use is not a definition of evolution and it's not a description of evolutionary theory. However, it is a reasonable conclusion (or "prediction") based on everything we know about science. Purists will argue that ruling out God in evolution is philosophical naturalism and this goes beyond the methodological naturalism that's required in science.

Whether this is strictly true or not is debatable but that's not the point. The IDiot students have carefully phrased the question in a way that requires scientists to prove a negative. The kind of "predictions" they're looking for are those that "prove" unguided and undirected processes.

Don't believe me? Just watch how they respond to my evolutionary theory-based prediction that whenever we start using a new drug to treat bacterial infections we will soon discover bacteria that are resistant to the drug.

This is standard freshman biology stuff. Either the IDiot club at Cornell is full of people who don't understand first year biology or they intend to use rhetorical trickery to reject all predictions that they don't like.

Meanwhile, I'm going to hop on over to ResearchID.org to see what kind of predictions the IDiots have come up with.

5 comments :

Anonymous said...

I don't understand how it is possible that "evolution predicts everything, so it's not really predict anything" and same time evolution can not generate IC and other stuff...

Anonymous said...

Even worse, their definition of "Darwinism" is internally contradictory.

"...undirected processes such as natural selection."

Natural selection isn't undirected. It doesn't have any intelligent hand guiding it, but that isn't the same thing. Real-world experience keeps a very tight control on natural selection. Traits that fail the test of experience are selected against; traits that avoid failure are selected for.

Mark said...

Are any members of this club even science majors? I keep coming across articles in Science that explicitly state confirmed evolution-science predictions.

Anonymous said...

What does Godism predict? War? Hate? Disease? Senseless suffering?

Anonymous said...

Are any members of this club even science majors?

Club president Hannah Maxson is supposedly a math-physics-chemistry triple major. I don't know the majors of any of the other club members.