It's certainly ridiculous. But like I have often said the money is in NOT having anything scientific, just something like this going on at the same time (as mentioned in the article): "CAD has a one month $ 5,000 campaign going on there."
I am surprised that after nearly a year, Kristen and her colleagues at CAD are not recognized by so many in the skeptic community as being a total parody. Kristen fooled Aron Ra and now it appears she may have taken in Prof. Moran. I am beginning to think that they will be counted among the greatest satirists the world has ever seen. Unfortunately, Kristen is just too good: this past summer she decided to run for city council in her town in Massachusetts and her opponents and many possible supporters were unable to see through the satire.
Satire is useless unless it's recognized as satire. Otherwise it's just fraud and deception. On the internet we call it trolling and it's not admirable.
This reminds me a bit of the current controversy over the Charlie Hebdo cartoons that have been accused of being racist. If the audience does not get the satirist's joke, is that the fault of the satirist, or of the audience? Interesting question.
The Charlie Hebdo cartoons are a bit more complicated. We're dealing with different cultures. You have to be French to really "get" the point and you have to be aware of French history and culture over the past several hundred years. If you're part of that culture then it's satire.
The cartoons are not funny or satirical to most people outside of France. That does not mean that the cartoonists are racist but by appearing to be racist to outsiders they are putting themselves in danger. However, it's not their fault because they are playing by the rules of traditional French culture.
Christians Against Dinosaurs don't have the same excuse. If it's meant to be satire and the people around them in their own culture don't get the satire then it's their fault, not the audience's.
Although the religious groups being satirized by CAD bear part of the blame, in that their words and actions are often so ridiculous that they are beyond satire. Poe's law remains in effect.
The biggest hoax of all is probably that paleontologists go where the big-money goes. If that were true then 99% of them would have long ago have left for a far more profitable career that requires no thankless science work.
The perception of satire depends not only on the history and culture of ones society. It also depends on ones personal experiences. For example, the first time I saw the Megan Fox (not of Transformers, but she of the "Nut at the Museum") video, I thought it was a spoof. That one could be so self deluded and self-assured while also bereft of scientific literacy seemed a bit much to be real. But she was dead serious, and in fact her video spawned several satirical videos mocking her. Now, having followed Dr. Moran's blog for a few years and the creationist shenanigans herein, I would have no problem believing Megan Fox was for real upon seeing it for the first time.
Who has seen the Kirk Cameron/Ken Hovind videos critiquing evolution (Crocoduck et al.)? Can you say they seem less unhinged than the woman in the CAD video? I sure can't.
She definitely claimed it was parody when she was running for office: http://ozonesouthbridge.blogspot.com/2015/06/kristin-auclair-candidate-for-town_16.html
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This has to be Poe, right?
Found this. Not sure if legit and still haven't read it
Christians against Dinosaurs is a hoax
"We are the new Americana, (ah ah ah)
High on legal marijuana, (sky high)"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-eYbUVZedY
For what it's worth I left a comment to their YouTube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZyIG_jZzBs&lc=z12mxhtadwfyf13jp04cgbvaxwy2wvtjbkw0k
It's certainly ridiculous. But like I have often said the money is in NOT having anything scientific, just something like this going on at the same time (as mentioned in the article):
"CAD has a one month $ 5,000 campaign going on there."
I am surprised that after nearly a year, Kristen and her colleagues at CAD are not recognized by so many in the skeptic community as being a total parody. Kristen fooled Aron Ra and now it appears she may have taken in Prof. Moran. I am beginning to think that they will be counted among the greatest satirists the world has ever seen. Unfortunately, Kristen is just too good: this past summer she decided to run for city council in her town in Massachusetts and her opponents and many possible supporters were unable to see through the satire.
Hey, she looks cute. Too bad she's not all there :/
Satire is useless unless it's recognized as satire. Otherwise it's just fraud and deception. On the internet we call it trolling and it's not admirable.
It ticks all the boxes of a well done ruse. Especially the facebook page content and comments.
This reminds me a bit of the current controversy over the Charlie Hebdo cartoons that have been accused of being racist. If the audience does not get the satirist's joke, is that the fault of the satirist, or of the audience? Interesting question.
The Charlie Hebdo cartoons are a bit more complicated. We're dealing with different cultures. You have to be French to really "get" the point and you have to be aware of French history and culture over the past several hundred years. If you're part of that culture then it's satire.
The cartoons are not funny or satirical to most people outside of France. That does not mean that the cartoonists are racist but by appearing to be racist to outsiders they are putting themselves in danger. However, it's not their fault because they are playing by the rules of traditional French culture.
Christians Against Dinosaurs don't have the same excuse. If it's meant to be satire and the people around them in their own culture don't get the satire then it's their fault, not the audience's.
Although the religious groups being satirized by CAD bear part of the blame, in that their words and actions are often so ridiculous that they are beyond satire. Poe's law remains in effect.
And the disappearance of their $5,000 campaign is likely explained by having been found to be running a hoax:
https://uncertaintist.wordpress.com/2015/03/03/christians-against-dinosaurs-message-to-indiegogo/
The biggest hoax of all is probably that paleontologists go where the big-money goes. If that were true then 99% of them would have long ago have left for a far more profitable career that requires no thankless science work.
The perception of satire depends not only on the history and culture of ones society. It also depends on ones personal experiences. For example, the first time I saw the Megan Fox (not of Transformers, but she of the "Nut at the Museum") video, I thought it was a spoof. That one could be so self deluded and self-assured while also bereft of scientific literacy seemed a bit much to be real. But she was dead serious, and in fact her video spawned several satirical videos mocking her. Now, having followed Dr. Moran's blog for a few years and the creationist shenanigans herein, I would have no problem believing Megan Fox was for real upon seeing it for the first time.
Who has seen the Kirk Cameron/Ken Hovind videos critiquing evolution (Crocoduck et al.)? Can you say they seem less unhinged than the woman in the CAD video? I sure can't.
She definitely claimed it was parody when she was running for office: http://ozonesouthbridge.blogspot.com/2015/06/kristin-auclair-candidate-for-town_16.html
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