Larry, If you would like to respect science you have to find some scientific answers to this issue. If you don't, I will make it very unpleasant for you... I mean it.
1. Can proteins self-assemble in the the pi-soup? (no cell membrane) The reason why I ask is that proteins tend to "avoid" the connection" or an "attraction". So, what makes them so "loving" in a cell? 2. It is not may question but my brother has been asking me this question for months. Since I have no answer, I thought I would ask you, since you are such a smart guy; you and Larry that is.
"Enzymes are needed to produce ATP. However, energy from ATP is needed to produce enzymes. However, DNA is required to make enzymes, but enzymes are required to make DNA. However, proteins can be made only by a cell, but a cell can be made only with specific proteins. So, how is this ALL possible in view of evolutionary prospective?"
If you don't, I will make it very unpleasant for you... I mean it.
I don't know about Larry, but if you said this to me I would ask you politely to go fuck yourself. Not once, not twice, many many times.
As per your "questions," they reveal much more than deep ignorance, they reveal plain stupidity. They reveal that we would have to start from such incredibly basic stuff, for example pre-kindergarden chemistry, before we could even explain to you why you're not making sense. Go get an education, start with elementary school. Pay attention this time around (if you attended elementary school before, that is).
Negoshit, please tell me you are not trying to intimidate me. Don't do it again. I mean it. And write it down it your f calendar. If you don't, you'd better have some merc.y....
Quest, please go away, you're simply too crazy and stupid to take seriously. You're a disgrace even to fundamentalist religious people. I've met Young Earth Creationists with whom I could at least have a conversation, but you my dear, you're fucking nuts. Go get a life.
Just answer my pivotal question, and I will go away.You are not going to become a chicken are you?
1. Can proteins self-assemble in the the pi-soup? (no cell membrane) The reason why I ask is that proteins tend to "avoid" the connection" or an "attraction". So, what makes them so "loving" in a cell? 2. It is not may question but my brother has been asking me this question for months. Since I have no answer, I thought I would ask you, since you are such a smart guy; you and Larry that is.
"Enzymes are needed to produce ATP. However, energy from ATP is needed to produce enzymes. However, DNA is required to make enzymes, but enzymes are required to make DNA. However, proteins can be made only by a cell, but a cell can be made only with specific proteins. So, how is this ALL possible in view of evolutionary prospective?"
After you answer this, You will never see me again... I mean if you really can answer this... But if you are going to avoid me like NickM and others, You will have to call me names to protect your faith... I mean. what do you have left? You have no scicence....
Mikel Rumraket Rasmussen, your name sound pretty cool...However... YOU have some answers to work on.... Daon't delay! Make sure you know what you are talking about...
Just a quick hint: All the assumptions built into your questions are false. As in observationally proven to be false. Go to google scholar and get educaetd. This blog is not here to tutor braindead religionuts.
Thanks to Darwin, we have a scientific method to prove me wrong, because as anyone with some brains can see now (except for the blind), and my sons are peeing their pants now laughing like maniacs, because they bet that everyone here, instead of trying to provide a scientific explanation against my claims, would attack me. My Sons are 8 and 10 by the way. Well, this is some shitty topic.(You boys don't read that). Well you guys must thing you are very smart and you know everything. Well, until you answer this shit logically and scientifically prove it to yourselves, you have nothing. NOTHING!!! You are a bunch of proud and presumptions shitheads who think they know everything and you know shit, as I have proven you many times. Put it on your resume you stupid shitheads! You will never be able to answer this problem. Never! Do you know why? Because you can't accept what is obvious and logic. Now, try to live with this....
Mikkel Rumraket Rasmussen "By the way I must apologize to professor Moran for engaging this moron on this blon, I'll just ignore him from now on."
What choice do you have? You have no arguments and you can't agree with me because that would mean you have some sense of logic leaft somewhere in yeat bainwashed shithead... which you don't lol :))))))))))))) It is the best way out... :) But the best is yet to come .... lol
What a pitiful state of world's shit-science,.. Nobody can even come up with some shitty argument... But this is just a very small piece of the so-called atheistic science... and just at the beginning everyone is fading away. My gracious God... Who has given those manikins the ability to type?
OK, Since you are probably not going to hear from me for a long time, for obvious reasons, I'm going to tell you a little secret about what I do. I mean, nobody gets a ton of money to do what I do, unless governments and greedy corporations get something out of it. My main interests is blue-green bacteria, which LuisG already mentioned few weeks back in regards to the perplexity of the so-call evolution of blue-green bacteria that Ventor was wondering about...
You see, oil-rich countries don't want any energy competition but they know that sooner or later, they are going to run out of oil. So, on one hand they want the research on blue-green bacteria to be very slow, but if there is any possibilities that this system can surpass solarpanel technology, they want the first crack at it.
So, either way money is pouring in... from oil rich and poor countries and the most from oil deprived and in great need counties like USA...
For those who don't know what blue-green bacteria is all about, it apparently has an amazing ability of harvesting sunlight.... I don't have to explain what that meas do I?
Anyway... It's been a blast. I'm going to leave you for a while unless obviously someone comes up with some real answers to my questions and not just intimidation and name-calling...
I know that you're mentally challenged, but how could I be trying to intimidate you if all I know about you is that you are some unknown imbecile? All I said is what I would do if you threatened me the way you threatened Larry.
Since you did, here it goes: go fuck yourself Quest. Yes, I just asked you politely to go fuck yourself you illiterate moron.
For those who don't know what blue-green bacteria is all about, it apparently has an amazing ability of harvesting sunlight.... I don't have to explain what that means do I?
No, the "apparent" photosynthesis mechanism of cyanobacteria has been described very well in introductory textbooks for over two decades. Anybody can look it up.
Since you are probably not going to hear from me for a long time ...
I've made a really exciting new discovery: all green plants share this amazing ability, and if you look inside their cells, you see what looks a great deal like bluegreen bacteria. Coincidence? I think not.
I really got a kick out of the putz with the beard to informs us that evolution is a lie and then tells us that he doesn't know the first thing about it. What a maroon.
If I understood the video correctly, the putz with the beard is an actor who is repeating canards scraped off the floors of creotard web sites.
Although I have to say that I had an initial very visceral and negative reaction to those 3 people until I understood that.
In a sense those poor actors took a bullet for the cause, threw themselves on the IDiot grenade, etc. so that others would not have to ever endure that again.
Would you post the URL for the video, please. I am in Pakistan, teaching, and here Youtube is blocked, so I need to paste the URL in a proxy site. Thanks
An obvious point, but: the originators of the comments in the video are of below average IQ (where average is 100). I don't think IQ tells everything about a person (or even necessarily exists as a single quality), but it correlates well with memory (ability to retain information) and and the ability to "do the math" (think). It is frustrating when such people disrupt the discussion of matters which they do not understand on a science blog, but becoming angry at their lack of ability to think is about as useful as becoming angry at me because I cannot bench-press 250 pounds.
Which is not to say that intelligent people don't also fool themselves. As Feynman pointed out, it is very easy to do, and I would bet that everyone here has fooled himself or herself about something at least once.
I'll add to the list with a couple one of my nephews said to me after he graduated from Houghton College:
1) Science can't be true because it always changes; religion must be true because it never changes.
2) Evolution could not work when there are two sexes, because how could he have found the one woman he was supposed to marry out of all the women in the world without the help of God?
I didn't have the heart to make much of an argument in response. It's like the statement about trying to teach an elephant to dance: it frustrates you, and annoys the elephant.
Great video. It's been around a while. However, I'm not sure why you're referring to this as "quote mining". Usually that term refers to taking a quote out of context so that the (original) speaker seems to be saying other than what he actually intended.
Larry, Can't you get any lower than this shit? I thought you had some brains but the evolu-shit-ion is flushing it away... Larr....y Get some hel..p
ReplyDeleteIs your keyboard malfunctioning?
DeleteDon't be blaming that on the keyboard !
DeleteLarry, If you would like to respect science you have to find some scientific answers to this issue. If you don't, I will make it very unpleasant for you... I mean it.
ReplyDelete1. Can proteins self-assemble in the the pi-soup? (no cell membrane)
The reason why I ask is that proteins tend to "avoid" the connection" or an "attraction". So, what makes them so "loving" in a cell?
2. It is not may question but my brother has been asking me this question for months. Since I have no answer, I thought I would ask you, since you are such a smart guy; you and Larry that is.
"Enzymes are needed to produce ATP. However, energy from ATP is needed to produce enzymes. However, DNA is required to make enzymes, but enzymes are required to make DNA.
However, proteins can be made only by a cell, but a cell can be made only with specific proteins. So, how is this ALL possible in view of evolutionary prospective?"
Nick Mitshit does know who he was dealing with.
We should send your looneybabble to the guys who made the video. Would fit right in! XD
DeleteThink of it as an audition.
DeleteBut at a minimum I think they are looking for loosely connected sentences in English.
Quest,
DeleteIf you don't, I will make it very unpleasant for you... I mean it.
I don't know about Larry, but if you said this to me I would ask you politely to go fuck yourself. Not once, not twice, many many times.
As per your "questions," they reveal much more than deep ignorance, they reveal plain stupidity. They reveal that we would have to start from such incredibly basic stuff, for example pre-kindergarden chemistry, before we could even explain to you why you're not making sense. Go get an education, start with elementary school. Pay attention this time around (if you attended elementary school before, that is).
Negoshit, please tell me you are not trying to intimidate me. Don't do it again. I mean it. And write it down it your f calendar. If you don't, you'd better have some merc.y....
DeleteQuest, please go away, you're simply too crazy and stupid to take seriously. You're a disgrace even to fundamentalist religious people. I've met Young Earth Creationists with whom I could at least have a conversation, but you my dear, you're fucking nuts. Go get a life.
DeleteJust answer my pivotal question, and I will go away.You are not going to become a chicken are you?
Delete1. Can proteins self-assemble in the the pi-soup? (no cell membrane)
The reason why I ask is that proteins tend to "avoid" the connection" or an "attraction". So, what makes them so "loving" in a cell?
2. It is not may question but my brother has been asking me this question for months. Since I have no answer, I thought I would ask you, since you are such a smart guy; you and Larry that is.
"Enzymes are needed to produce ATP. However, energy from ATP is needed to produce enzymes. However, DNA is required to make enzymes, but enzymes are required to make DNA.
However, proteins can be made only by a cell, but a cell can be made only with specific proteins. So, how is this ALL possible in view of evolutionary prospective?"
After you answer this, You will never see me again... I mean if you really can answer this... But if you are going to avoid me like NickM and others, You will have to call me names to protect your faith... I mean. what do you have left? You have no scicence....
Mikel Rumraket Rasmussen, your name sound pretty cool...However... YOU have some answers to work on.... Daon't delay! Make sure you know what you are talking about...
DeleteYou wouldn't understand the answer. Your a braindead, halluscinating nutjob and an idiot-troll.
DeleteJust a quick hint: All the assumptions built into your questions are false. As in observationally proven to be false. Go to google scholar and get educaetd. This blog is not here to tutor braindead religionuts.
DeleteBy the way I must apologize to professor Moran for engaging this moron on this blon, I'll just ignore him from now on.
DeleteThanks to Darwin, we have a scientific method to prove me wrong, because as anyone with some brains can see now (except for the blind), and my sons are peeing their pants now laughing like maniacs, because they bet that everyone here, instead of trying to provide a scientific explanation against my claims, would attack me. My Sons are 8 and 10 by the way. Well, this is some shitty topic.(You boys don't read that). Well you guys must thing you are very smart and you know everything. Well, until you answer this shit logically and scientifically prove it to yourselves, you have nothing. NOTHING!!! You are a bunch of proud and presumptions shitheads who think they know everything and you know shit, as I have proven you many times. Put it on your resume you stupid shitheads! You will never be able to answer this problem. Never! Do you know why? Because you can't accept what is obvious and logic. Now, try to live with this....
DeleteMikkel Rumraket Rasmussen
Delete"By the way I must apologize to professor Moran for engaging this moron on this blon, I'll just ignore him from now on."
What choice do you have? You have no arguments and you can't agree with me because that would mean you have some sense of logic leaft somewhere in yeat bainwashed shithead... which you don't lol :)))))))))))))
It is the best way out... :) But the best is yet to come .... lol
What a pitiful state of world's shit-science,.. Nobody can even come up with some shitty argument... But this is just a very small piece of the so-called atheistic science... and just at the beginning everyone is fading away. My gracious God... Who has given those manikins the ability to type?
DeleteOK, Since you are probably not going to hear from me for a long time, for obvious reasons, I'm going to tell you a little secret about what I do. I mean, nobody gets a ton of money to do what I do, unless governments and greedy corporations get something out of it. My main interests is blue-green bacteria, which LuisG already mentioned few weeks back in regards to the perplexity of the so-call evolution of blue-green bacteria that Ventor was wondering about...
DeleteYou see, oil-rich countries don't want any energy competition but they know that sooner or later, they are going to run out of oil. So, on one hand they want the research on blue-green bacteria to be very slow, but if there is any possibilities that this system can surpass solarpanel technology, they want the first crack at it.
So, either way money is pouring in... from oil rich and poor countries and the most from oil deprived and in great need counties like USA...
For those who don't know what blue-green bacteria is all about, it apparently has an amazing ability of harvesting sunlight.... I don't have to explain what that meas do I?
Anyway... It's been a blast. I'm going to leave you for a while unless obviously someone comes up with some real answers to my questions and not just intimidation and name-calling...
Who has given those manikins the ability to type?
DeleteI'm pretty sure that manikins can't type, but they do perform the most incredible courtship dances.
Quest,
DeleteI know that you're mentally challenged, but how could I be trying to intimidate you if all I know about you is that you are some unknown imbecile? All I said is what I would do if you threatened me the way you threatened Larry.
Since you did, here it goes: go fuck yourself Quest. Yes, I just asked you politely to go fuck yourself you illiterate moron.
Quest asks,
DeleteFor those who don't know what blue-green bacteria is all about, it apparently has an amazing ability of harvesting sunlight.... I don't have to explain what that means do I?
No, the "apparent" photosynthesis mechanism of cyanobacteria has been described very well in introductory textbooks for over two decades. Anybody can look it up.
Since you are probably not going to hear from me for a long time ...
Goodbye, Quest. It's been .....
I've made a really exciting new discovery: all green plants share this amazing ability, and if you look inside their cells, you see what looks a great deal like bluegreen bacteria. Coincidence? I think not.
DeleteI really got a kick out of the putz with the beard to informs us that evolution is a lie and then tells us that he doesn't know the first thing about it. What a maroon.
ReplyDeleteIf I understood the video correctly, the putz with the beard is an actor who is repeating canards scraped off the floors of creotard web sites.
DeleteAlthough I have to say that I had an initial very visceral and negative reaction to those 3 people until I understood that.
In a sense those poor actors took a bullet for the cause, threw themselves on the IDiot grenade, etc. so that others would not have to ever endure that again.
They are probably in therapy as we speak.
The actors are very good - they took me in until I could detect their innate intelligence.
DeleteWould you post the URL for the video, please. I am in Pakistan, teaching, and here Youtube is blocked, so I need to paste the URL in a proxy site. Thanks
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO9IPoAdct8
DeleteAn obvious point, but: the originators of the comments in the video are of below average IQ (where average is 100). I don't think IQ tells everything about a person (or even necessarily exists as a single quality), but it correlates well with memory (ability to retain information) and and the ability to "do the math" (think). It is frustrating when such people disrupt the discussion of matters which they do not understand on a science blog, but becoming angry at their lack of ability to think is about as useful as becoming angry at me because I cannot bench-press 250 pounds.
ReplyDeleteWhich is not to say that intelligent people don't also fool themselves. As Feynman pointed out, it is very easy to do, and I would bet that everyone here has fooled himself or herself about something at least once.
I'll add to the list with a couple one of my nephews said to me after he graduated from Houghton College:
1) Science can't be true because it always changes; religion must be true because it never changes.
2) Evolution could not work when there are two sexes, because how could he have found the one woman he was supposed to marry out of all the women in the world without the help of God?
I didn't have the heart to make much of an argument in response. It's like the statement about trying to teach an elephant to dance: it frustrates you, and annoys the elephant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjIH1jdx2_A
DeleteGreat video. It's been around a while. However, I'm not sure why you're referring to this as "quote mining". Usually that term refers to taking a quote out of context so that the (original) speaker seems to be saying other than what he actually intended.
ReplyDeleteI put "quote mining" in quotation marks. Does that help?
DeleteI meant it to be sarcastic.