I'm not a humanist and now I know why. Not only is it immoral and atheist but it's also (gasp!) LIBERAL! Now I know why the Christians are so frightened.
[Hat Tip: Friendly Atheists]
P.S. I don't make fun of spelling errors because people in glass houses ....
P.P.S. As strange as it may seem to our neighbors to the south, in Canada we not only have a Liberal Party but people actually vote for it!
Ironically, Stéphane Dion has gone out of his way to drop the G-word in interviews and court religious groups. Perhaps this means the Liberals aren't liberal.
ReplyDeleteMaybe even stranger, here in Australia the conservative hobby-fascists' party call themselves Liberals.
ReplyDeleteMaybe even stranger, here in Australia the conservative hobby-fascists' party call themselves Liberals.
ReplyDeleteThat's not necessarily strange, given that conservatives tend to be economic liberals. I dunno if the Aussie Liberal Party are social liberals too.
In the UK, we have the Liberal Democrats who are socially liberal but until recently haven't been economically liberal (they've been the most socialist of our three main parties). They have begun to move towards economic liberalism now though.
Oh Gawd! Not RELIGON!
ReplyDeleteDepends how far are you willing to take "humanism." Taking everybodies money through taxes and giving to "the needy" (including people who leech of the system) is certainly liberal. Plus this neo-humanism garbage that "anything is okay, nothing is wrong, run around in the street naked" is certainly runs opposite to moral beliefs.
ReplyDeleteWhat angers me the most about your rants is that you think "God" (not just in the Christian sense) is a superstistion. Yet the belief in "God" or some higher power has been self-evident since the beginning of mankind. The belief there is no higher power and all of this randomly worked out is much less logical than believing in a design to this universe. As an engineer I can tell you that. Worse yet you are among the crowd (both atheists and fanatical theists) who would use evolution to try to disprove God.
-JWC
The belief there is no higher power and all of this randomly worked out is much less logical than believing in a design to this universe. As an engineer I can tell you that.
ReplyDeleteWell that's settled then. If an engineer says it then it must be true.
To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, the 14 most terrifying words in the English language are "I'm an engineer and I'm here to tell you about design in the universe."
Since engineers have profound knowledge of god(s) does that mean that priests and rabbis and imams know how to strip down and rebuild car engines?
ReplyDeleteOr have I misunderstood the claims from authority thing?
Larry, why don't you consider yourself a humanist? How do you define that word?
ReplyDeleteJWC: "Yet the belief in "God" or some higher power has been self-evident since the beginning of mankind. The belief there is no higher power and all of this randomly worked out is much less logical than believing in a design to this universe."
ReplyDeleteThen it could be equally "self-evident" that God is the Invisible Pink Unicorn.
How else would you explain raisin bread?
That somehow all the molecules of the raisin bread came together randomly and created itself?
It is certainly a hallmark of design - see how each slice of raisin bread fits perfectly* into my hand. Besides, it is irreducibly complex. Have you ever seen raisin bread without either the raisins or the bread?
This proves that Invisible Pink Unicorn exists!
Disprove me.
*Raisin bread has two grooves, which means that you can hold it any way you fancy.
JJ Anderson asks,
ReplyDeleteLarry, why don't you consider yourself a humanist? How do you define that word?
Humanism is a type of religion and I don't want to belong to a religion [Humanist Manifesto I, Humanist Manifesto II]. More recent attempt to disguise the religous aspects of the movement are not convincing [Humanist Manifesto III].
I don't agree with everything that humanist organizations do. Because of this I don't feel any need to associate myself with a humanist organization even though I agree with many of the basic humanist tenets.
In my direct experience with humanist groups I don't see that they have anything to offer.
I am a member of the Center for Inquiry, which is closely associated with humanist groups but the fact that the Center brings together people with different secular views is more comforting to me.
I don't want to be labeled. I want to remain free to make up my own mind without having to identify with a group philosophy.
I think they just ran out of i's in the letter kit.
ReplyDeleteBTW - this was probably the right place to leave out the i. Certainly could go with ANT-GOD - but that would have been funny.
ReplyDeleteOf course, a more inteligent option would be to pretend it fell off or was taken as: RELIG ON