Tuesday, May 06, 2008

You're Not Gonna Believe This ...

 

According to Bill Dembski [Who’s in it for the money?].
Darwinism has always been an upper-class movement. ID, by contrast, is strictly middle-class. That’s our base and that’s where we find our support.
You won't believe his evidence for such a statement unless you actually follow the link and read what he wrote.


20 comments:

  1. So that's why all those rich Republican candidates came out solidly in favour of evolution, right?

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  2. I think ID folk just need to write better books. They'll sell more and make more from them...

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  3. That's funnny. My recollection is that it was Michael Behe who was paid around $100/hour by the DI to appear at Dover, while Ken Miller did it for nothing.

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  4. Amazing. It's the usual sour grapes from Dembski about how unfair the world is to him. As somebody else said, maybe if he wrote books that were actually readable and intellectually honest people might buy them. And of course Dembski's "evidence" here is just a bunch of easily-refuted anecdotal stories that have no basis in reality. It's amazing to me that instead of spending his time actually writing something new and profound about ID, he now writes this kind of rubbish, yet he wants us to believe he is this big-shot intellectual. Just check his last few entries and you'll get the idea - he really has nothing important to say anymore.

    He really is an utter twit.

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  5. My recollection is that it was Michael Behe who was paid around $100/hour by the DI to appear at Dover, while Ken Miller did it for nothing.

    Well, of course. Middle-class means you work for money, but more money and less physical labour than lower-class. Upper-class means you are an aristocratic fop who is supported by money from inheritance and have never worked a day in your life for wages.

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  6. How much do the DI fellows earn in comparison to the average biologist?

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  7. How much do the DI fellows earn in comparison to the average biologist?

    Normalized per hour of actual lab research? Infinitely more.

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  8. You know they're getting desperate when they start the mudslinging. Personally, I find it quite encouraging

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  9. Let's see, who is one of the biggest backers of the Discovery Institute. That's right - Howard Ahmmanson - everybody's favorite middle-class multi-millionaire!

    Is Dembski really being serious with this drivel that he's spouting? (Yes, I know, I think I know what the answer is...)

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  10. Actually read what he wrote?


    Oh no, I'm not falling for that one!

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  11. And let's not forget me, a Letter Carrier with a grade 10 science education who can still see through the idiocy of the ID proponents. We all know how rich those posties are.

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  12. Usual sniveling and whining from Dembski, who is basically unemployable at a legitimate university.

    The IDiot is reduced to roaming the halls of a backwater bible college in Texas. He found his level of competence, and he apparently is uncomfortable with it.

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  13. Another classic Dembski post. I'm just always so struck that this person who apparently teaches at a University and has multiple advanced degrees, can write this nonsense that is not only just plain absurd, but just incredibly childish.

    I'm sure that the sycophants who so breathlessly support him cannot be secretly a little embarrassed by this - that their leading ID star intellectual is engaged in such blatant petty jealousy of others who are more successful than has been. Can you imagine Dawkins ever writing something like this?

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  14. What a load of fucking shit.

    It's so unbelievably demoralizing to have to read that bullshit and know that millions of people would buy it completely

    What a douche.

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  15. I Liked the post that claimed the future benefit of ID research - designing a new flagellum rotor that will operate with 100% efficiency.(!)

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  16. As Stephen Colbert would say, "The market has spoken."

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  17. I really like comment #5 by Leo Hales: "Not surprising, really. Religion tends to put restrictions on how much money one makes and how one makes money in the first place. So wealthy people have plenty of motivation to adopt an ideology that undermines religon(sic)."

    Apparently, Leo has never heard how much some of the pastors in this country make and why some of them are now under investigation due to their misuse of massive amounts of church money. IDiots never cease to amaze me.

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  18. Yeah, that's why as a postdoc publishing papers about human genome evolution I was making $35 million a year.

    Oops, silly me, I meant thousand.

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  19. And of course Dembski's "evidence" here is just a bunch of easily-refuted anecdotal stories that have no basis in reality.

    Of course - he is famously using his explanatory filter.

    I'm sure one can make a historical note that early natural philosophers had to secure patrons to be able to work. Funnily, some of those patrons where leaders in rich church organizations.

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  20. I don't wish to be unnecessarily kind, but I seriously wonder if Dembski has some kind of social dysfunction (perhaps a mild form of Asperger's?). He regularly makes post like this that are not only embarrassingly fatuous (especially for somebody of his so-called intellectual caliber) - but they are socially inept. It's as if he lacks the ability to socially 'read' how others will perceive his comments (his pathetic attempts at humor are very good examples of this, where he will often engage in humor that would be more suitable for a nine-year old). Unfortunately for him, it doesn't appear that his loyal supporters will tell him what is so painfully obvious to those of us on the 'outside'....

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