tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post6530210536939281695..comments2024-03-27T14:50:47.345-04:00Comments on <center>Sandwalk</center>: How Similar Are Humans and Chimpanzees?Larry Moranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05756598746605455848noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-10203821695179644962011-01-11T02:09:25.904-05:002011-01-11T02:09:25.904-05:00I think the Hapmap project is reporting the number...I think the Hapmap project is reporting the number on SNPs as they go along, and at least in one of their nature paper classed them as synonymous and non-synonymous.<br /><br />I can't find the paper or remember the number, though.The Other Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17570666738076378921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-60589971034022216742011-01-10T09:42:56.799-05:002011-01-10T09:42:56.799-05:00Tim,
Note that 80% number in itself is a strong ...Tim, <br /><br />Note that 80% number in itself is a strong indication that a lot of mutations are under strong purifying selection. Without selection, the ~2% difference in protein-coding DNA would translate into almost all proteins to be different. <br /><br />This, coupled with the very small average DNA difference between humans (I don't even know what the number is), implies to me that difference in proteins would be rather small. If I had to guess, ~5%. Of course, there is enough info now to get the real experimental answer. I wonder if anyone bothered?DKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-76361296455370430302011-01-09T18:41:51.561-05:002011-01-09T18:41:51.561-05:00Those posts are indeed excellent, and helped me pr...Those posts are indeed excellent, and helped me prepare tomorrow's genetics lecture.Rosie Redfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06807912674127645263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-37674155671941521712011-01-09T17:10:13.512-05:002011-01-09T17:10:13.512-05:00Except that the differences between chimps and hum...Except that the differences between chimps and humans cannot be simply made from a comparison of the their respective genomes.<br /><br />This is where both creationists and evolutionists make a fatal mistake.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18226525473904632047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-45494174707331838562011-01-09T15:05:52.453-05:002011-01-09T15:05:52.453-05:00So: humans share 20% of their proteins with chimps...So: humans share 20% of their proteins with chimps. How much with another randomly-chosen human.Tim Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06623536372084468307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-47410502738754042052011-01-08T11:04:52.459-05:002011-01-08T11:04:52.459-05:00A good discussion that helps describe the issues r...A good discussion that helps describe the issues related to "similarity" "identity" and "commonality", as those terms are used comparatively.<br /><br />Although much easier to read them all by clicking on his home page and just reading the posts up from the bottom. (http://toddcwood.blogspot.com/)<br /><br />He has another post put up today that continues the thread.Divalentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-44660565287333393032011-01-08T03:03:39.226-05:002011-01-08T03:03:39.226-05:00How about this:
"Humans and chimps are 80% d...How about this: <br />"Humans and chimps are 80% different"?<br /><br />That's true. If one looks at the identity at protein level, 80% of human and chimp proteins differ at one or more amino acid residues. <br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15716009DKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-72673751756497768582011-01-07T21:03:27.308-05:002011-01-07T21:03:27.308-05:00After reading the articles, my cognitive dissonanc...After reading the articles, my cognitive dissonance is exceeded only by Todd Wood's.<br /><br />I had a look at the BSG site and they seem to be full out batshit crazy YECers.<br /><br />It reminds me of stories I've heard of petroleum geologists who by day locate oil using all the scientific tools that current geology provides but by night bow down to a tribal god that created the earth 6000 years ago.steve oberskinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-61653206559784005932011-01-07T16:59:55.325-05:002011-01-07T16:59:55.325-05:00I can never understand how it is that creationists...I can never understand how it is that creationists fail to see that using the 'counting' method of Britten et al. increases the differences between ALL taxa, not just humans and chimps - even taxa they accept being related via descent (from some 'kind').Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-13675422438986925212011-01-07T15:47:18.446-05:002011-01-07T15:47:18.446-05:00It's rare to see such honest and careful schol...It's rare to see such honest and careful scholarship and reasoned analysis from a creationist. It's a shame he doesn't apply the same amount of reason and intellectual honesty to the question of creationism itself.Timnoreply@blogger.com