tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post2588261900940349211..comments2024-03-19T00:24:23.577-04:00Comments on <center>Sandwalk</center>: AAAS Flunks Evolution!Larry Moranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05756598746605455848noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-71591627477055296092011-04-30T13:39:46.286-04:002011-04-30T13:39:46.286-04:00Wikipedia defines genetic drift as follows: "...Wikipedia defines genetic drift as follows: "Genetic drift or allelic drift is the change in the frequency of a gene variant (allele) in a population due to random sampling." Why not use this definition of sampling error? Using sampling error has the advantage in that it enables a biology instructor to relate the concept to "sampling error" used in probablity and statistics courses that many students take. It is obvious that sampling error increases as population (sample) size decreases. Larry Moran is right--students need to better understand the role that sampling error (approx equal genetic drift) can play in evolution.What definition of genetic drift does Larry Moran use? Biology professors as well as students also need a more comprehensive understanding of selection.<br />My next post hopefully will deal with the ecological causes of natural(including sexual) selection and the four selective genetic effects that selection plays s(the?) major role in causing. Maybe Larry can post his defintion of selection as a process before I attempt to do it in one paragraph.---Carl Bajema, a retired biology professor who is a dinosaur trying to become a mammal with respect to the computer age.Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07937433207176729865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-37126715972504207222011-04-23T22:27:55.920-04:002011-04-23T22:27:55.920-04:00Actually what all this is about, is that the profs...Actually what all this is about, is that the profs are not up on the latest just-so stories. <br />That is what causes Moran to criticize them. <br /><br />Evolution theory is a moving target requiring new just-so stories, as each new piece of contradictory evidence comes to light.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-83332260717762914372011-04-22T17:07:11.521-04:002011-04-22T17:07:11.521-04:00Nobody here is disputing that these univ professor...Nobody here is disputing that these univ professors who teach evolution theory do not know what they are talking about. The report confirms this. <br /><br />The question is why do they not know what they are talking about. <br />And the other question is why does anyone hold them in any esteem?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-57975296309161477412011-04-22T12:30:18.843-04:002011-04-22T12:30:18.843-04:00Anonymous writes:
Do we have to thank the creatio...Anonymous writes:<br /><br /><i>Do we have to thank the creationists for the fact that evolutionist professors do not know what they are talking about?</i><br /><br /><i>Perhaps the reason that university profs are so confused about evolution is because those who have been challenging current evolution theory (including, but not limited to creationists) have shown that the theory is full of holes and the profs and researchers have no way to explain the inconsistencies and contradictions.</i><br /><br /><i>I suggest that the reason is that current evolution theory is so inconsistent and filled with just-so stories that it is inevitable that those who try to teach it are stumped.</i><br /><br />Thank goodness you repeated yourself three times or I might not have caught on to what you were trying to say.Judnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-12526696076105580322011-04-22T11:05:41.186-04:002011-04-22T11:05:41.186-04:00Well there must be some reason why these univ prof...Well there must be some reason why these univ profs do not know what they are talking about. <br /><br />I suggest that the reason is that current evolution theory is so inconsistent and filled with just-so stories that it is inevitable that those who try to teach it are stumped.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-82591012977036814952011-04-21T20:29:44.248-04:002011-04-21T20:29:44.248-04:00Anonymous writes:
This generally happens before a...Anonymous writes:<br /><br /><i>This generally happens before a paradigm shift.</i><br /><br />Perhaps you'll hold your breath waiting? ;-)Judnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-4643079002791840892011-04-21T19:21:24.355-04:002011-04-21T19:21:24.355-04:00Perhaps the reason that university profs are so co...<i>Perhaps the reason that university profs are so confused about evolution is because those who have been challenging current evolution theory (including, but not limited to creationists) have shown that the theory is full of holes and the profs and researchers have no way to explain the inconsistencies and contradictions.</i><br /><br />No. That is most definitely NOT the reason.DKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-60344923040836412512011-04-21T16:12:08.500-04:002011-04-21T16:12:08.500-04:00Perhaps the reason that university profs are so co...Perhaps the reason that university profs are so confused about evolution is because those who have been challenging current evolution theory (including, but not limited to creationists) have shown that the theory is full of holes and the profs and researchers have no way to explain the inconsistencies and contradictions. <br /><br />This generally happens before a paradigm shift.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-89250795550500121812011-04-21T15:58:40.297-04:002011-04-21T15:58:40.297-04:00anonymous asks,
Do we have to thank the creationi...anonymous asks,<br /><br /><i>Do we have to thank the creationists for the fact that evolutionist professors do not know what they are talking about?</i><br /><br />Nope.<br /><br>Larry Moranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05756598746605455848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-27599040230565152312011-04-21T12:23:55.730-04:002011-04-21T12:23:55.730-04:00Do we have to thank the creationists for the fact ...Do we have to thank the creationists for the fact that evolutionist professors do not know what they are talking about?<br /><br />If it rains when you do not want it to rain, do you blame creationists for that as well? <br /><br />We are all starting to see that your prejudice against religion taints everything you think and teach.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-89964572368467875982011-04-21T12:13:37.643-04:002011-04-21T12:13:37.643-04:00anonymous asks,
Larry, do you think evolution the...anonymous asks,<br /><br /><i>Larry, do you think evolution theory is held in low repute by the majority of the population because for so many years it has been taught by professors who do not know what they are talking about?</i><br /><br />No, I think we have to thank the creationists for that.<br /><br>Larry Moranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05756598746605455848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-79086268862787762322011-04-21T07:56:26.790-04:002011-04-21T07:56:26.790-04:00Larry, do you think evolution theory is held in lo...Larry, do you think evolution theory is held in low repute by the majority of the population because for so many years it has been taught by professors who do not know what they are talking about?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-73698116081180771362011-04-20T22:09:13.503-04:002011-04-20T22:09:13.503-04:00Unfortunately, teaching professors the core concep...<i>Unfortunately, teaching professors the core concepts of biology won't do anything to help those professors secure extramural funding.</i>.<br /><br />That. Which is why they are not even interested in understanding core concepts to begin with.DKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-60396780595201624652011-04-20T20:57:24.209-04:002011-04-20T20:57:24.209-04:00Look on the bright side, Larry. At least they said...Look on the bright side, Larry. At least they said evolution 'AND' natural Selection, rather than simply equating the two terms..Lbbhechthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11882841266515495964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-10410493712176136362011-04-20T18:40:23.527-04:002011-04-20T18:40:23.527-04:00Unfortunately, teaching professors the core concep...Unfortunately, teaching professors the core concepts of biology won't do anything to help those professors secure extramural funding. Not going to happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com