tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post1930669802385221050..comments2024-03-27T14:50:47.345-04:00Comments on <center>Sandwalk</center>: Religious ScientistsLarry Moranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05756598746605455848noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-88024118246018976552008-12-16T10:34:00.000-05:002008-12-16T10:34:00.000-05:00It would be especially interesting if their defini...It would be especially interesting if their definition of scientist varied with nationality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-86063916044220592342008-12-15T08:17:00.000-05:002008-12-15T08:17:00.000-05:00As I stated in the other post about this survey, t...As I stated in the other post about this survey, the definition of "scientist" is undefined for the survey and varies widely in this article. If it was anyone with a bachelors degree and working for industry/pharma/academia, as is the case for some of the other stats SEED presents, then that would go a long way to explaining these particular results.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-59981587382825078402008-12-13T05:52:00.000-05:002008-12-13T05:52:00.000-05:00I looked at the link provided in the hope of locat...I looked at the link provided in the hope of locating the criteria for "scientist" but I couldn't find the survey referred to. I think that they need to make clear the exact criteria used and ideally I'd like to see how the religious statuses are spread among the different sub-classes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-54608618490443334902008-12-12T21:48:00.000-05:002008-12-12T21:48:00.000-05:00What's the difference between atheist and non-beli...What's the difference between atheist and non-believer? To me, one is a more specific category of the other. And exactly does "spiritual" mean?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-22124575673911823152008-12-12T20:37:00.000-05:002008-12-12T20:37:00.000-05:00At the elite levels belief is far less.Note: this ...At the <A HREF="http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/news/file002.html" REL="nofollow">elite levels</A> belief is far less.<BR/><BR/>Note: this is from the US Academy of Science which does include mathematicians.Harriethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17953435368705942387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-47636704869149573712008-12-12T16:36:00.000-05:002008-12-12T16:36:00.000-05:00What does it take to qualify as a "scientist" for ...What does it take to qualify as a "scientist" for purposes of their poll? Which of the following would qualify?<BR/><BR/>Teaching K-12 science<BR/>Undergraduate science major<BR/>Bachelor's degree<BR/>graduate student<BR/>Working as a technician<BR/>Working as a Post-doc<BR/>Professor in a religious college<BR/>Professor at a secular research university<BR/>Got a degree in science but now doing something else, like flipping burgers or serving time in federal prison for tax evasionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-44759117220368742752008-12-12T16:32:00.000-05:002008-12-12T16:32:00.000-05:00Those numbers are, I think, quite consistent with ...Those numbers are, I think, quite consistent with data from studies spanning nearly a century. (See, for example, <A HREF="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B05E4DB143DF930A35757C0A961958260&sec=&spon=&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink" REL="nofollow">NY Times report</A> from about 10 years ago on a major study.) The percentages among U.S. scientists do differ from those among the general population, if I'm not mistaken. Your impression "that scientists are considerably less religious than the society in which they live" is not, at least as a broad generalization, consistent with the studies I've seen over the years.Stephen Mathesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05057004085073574659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-49929348176208712462008-12-12T16:14:00.000-05:002008-12-12T16:14:00.000-05:00Agreed: They should toss out Meds, Engineering, Co...Agreed: They should toss out Meds, Engineering, CompSci and Math. That's 52% of the survey population right there, that doesn't really belong in the set "Scientist".Eamon Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04262012749524758120noreply@blogger.com