tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post1706334141817013841..comments2024-03-27T14:50:47.345-04:00Comments on <center>Sandwalk</center>: Ohmygod! These photographs are faked!Larry Moranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05756598746605455848noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-30908972080651314672007-08-31T16:21:00.000-04:002007-08-31T16:21:00.000-04:00If you liked the faked moth photos, you'll wet you...If you liked the faked moth photos, you'll wet your pants over the faked caveman-kids riding dinosaurs diorama. I guess that fake proves Genesis has no answers.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07891989201161664914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-84354141871707490262007-08-30T16:00:00.000-04:002007-08-30T16:00:00.000-04:00The Brummell: "Why do I ever devote brain cells to...The Brummell: <B>"Why do I ever devote brain cells to thinking about the rantings of such people? I do just fine ignoring the muttering homeless guy who hangs out behind the bus depot, why can't I just ignore creationists?"</B><BR/><BR/>I think we have the same problem. I wish I could ignore them.nonamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04999323764738094233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-65336326793095580272007-08-30T15:42:00.000-04:002007-08-30T15:42:00.000-04:00Wells' argument seems approximately equivalent to ...Wells' argument seems approximately equivalent to stating that we have no evidence that George W. Bush is president of the USA because all of the pictures I've seen of him, putatively in office as president, were staged in that the photographer was either invited to photograph Mr. Bush or waited for an opportunity at a publicised event. Staged, in either case, and therefore insufficient as evidence of Mr. Bush's appearance, style of dress, or current employment.<BR/><BR/>Why do I ever devote brain cells to thinking about the rantings of such people? I do just fine ignoring the muttering homeless guy who hangs out behind the bus depot, why can't I just ignore creationists?TheBrummellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08973380652057861796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-56479596816035000912007-08-30T13:58:00.000-04:002007-08-30T13:58:00.000-04:00I think an important question is whether there can...I think an important question is whether there can be color variation due to epigenetic causes, as is well- documented in several other lepidoptera. I say this becuase at the Majerus website he is very careful to stress that "under the same environmental condition" the color of biston depends on alleles. Makes you wonder, since traits certainly exist that only are inherited in mendelian fashion depending on environmental conditions. <BR/>So the predatorcan certainly affect the frequency, but there may be yet another, more "generative" factor involved as well.A. Vargashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04876504431768677209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-65624579272561677242007-08-30T13:44:00.000-04:002007-08-30T13:44:00.000-04:00As I understand the "controversy," the argument is...As I understand the "controversy," the argument is over whether these moths spend their days on treetrunks (where Kettlewell placed them in his classic experiments) or, instead, prefer to sit on the undersides of large branches. A stupider argument is difficult to imagine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-45489139247632888022007-08-30T12:02:00.000-04:002007-08-30T12:02:00.000-04:00Okay, I haven't read the paper in question. But it...Okay, I haven't read the paper in question. But it looks like those photographs only illustrate the differences in environments and camouflage, using a photo as a proxy for what a predator would see. <BR/><BR/>I assume that the creationist strawman falls back on their inability to understand how science is done and ultimately what science <I>is</I>. And it seems the "peppered moth myth" is still alive and kicking under the creationist circus tent. Faking a fake, how ironic.Torbjörn Larssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02022193326058378221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-15348614976868719112007-08-30T11:11:00.000-04:002007-08-30T11:11:00.000-04:00Disney's nature movies where the racoon plays with...Disney's nature movies where the racoon plays with the cute cougar cub, are never faked._Arthurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00784501862357079857noreply@blogger.com