tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post7599063722330176931..comments2024-03-27T14:50:47.345-04:00Comments on <center>Sandwalk</center>: Michele Bachmann Lies About Socialized MedicineLarry Moranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05756598746605455848noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-47574050303359244112013-03-26T09:52:23.648-04:002013-03-26T09:52:23.648-04:00Yeah... she's probably going to be sued by the...Yeah... she's probably going to be sued by the conservative home-schooling advocate whose list of home-schoolers she stole.<br /><br />Creationist criminals.Diogeneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15551943619872944637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-30367844600359118232013-03-26T05:29:33.468-04:002013-03-26T05:29:33.468-04:00Its a liberal plot to discredit her, because she i...Its a liberal plot to discredit her, because she is a real american and a true patriot.SRMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07299706694667706149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-59904694436822818352013-03-26T01:53:49.392-04:002013-03-26T01:53:49.392-04:00http://news.yahoo.com/michele-bachmanns-presidenti...http://news.yahoo.com/michele-bachmanns-presidential-campaign-investigated-ethics-watchdog-203206309.htmlThe whole truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219999357041824471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-44973825916280327362013-03-25T21:59:09.695-04:002013-03-25T21:59:09.695-04:00@ Diogenes:
Not a digital CCD, old-fashioned X-ray...@ Diogenes:<br /><i>Not a digital CCD, old-fashioned X-ray film. I think they charged me about the equivalent of $5, and gave me the X-ray film. I still have it</i><br /><br />Probably a good thing! Thus far, every CCD-based instrumentation for imaging ECL-based Westerns I used/tested blows in comparison to the good old X-ray films. (But I haven't seen the highest end machines which would probably end up 10OX the price of an automatic film developer).<br />DKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03332861863615595162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-28956912201480818462013-03-25T21:51:53.909-04:002013-03-25T21:51:53.909-04:00@ Larry:
I wonder why he said that?
To be honest...@ Larry: <br /><i>I wonder why he said that?</i><br /><br />To be honest, I have no idea. Didn't really pursue the subject. Anyhow, his dad is a doctor in London, Ontario, so maybe he knows something you and I don't? <br /><br />DKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03332861863615595162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-5575735001332153302013-03-25T11:56:02.039-04:002013-03-25T11:56:02.039-04:00When I was in LA I often walked past a couple of h...When I was in LA I often walked past a couple of hotels near the UCLA hospital. They were full of Arab families with women in burqas. I presumed that they were rich families from the Gulf with a sick member who wanted American treatment.<br /><br />There seems to be a belief that you'll get better treatment in America if you're <br /><br />1. very sick and <br />2. very rich.<br /><br />In the absence of 1 or 2, I dunno.<br /><br />Once I had a bronchial infection in China. The hospitals there are dives, even in Beijing, but service is comparatively fast. They X-rayed my lungs lickety split. Not a digital CCD, old-fashioned X-ray film. I think they charged me about the equivalent of $5, and gave me the X-ray film. I still have it. <br /><br />As in many developing countries, they had out the most advanced antibiotics like they're sugar pills. Despite being atheists, they don't get the whole "evolvution of antibiotic resistance" idea.<br />Diogeneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15551943619872944637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-75253515407090534412013-03-25T11:53:08.475-04:002013-03-25T11:53:08.475-04:00Quite a few Americans also come to Canada for cert...Quite a few Americans also come to Canada for certain highly specialized experimental treatments. <br /><br />Rich Canadians (i.e. some politicians) often go to the USA for elective surgery because they can get it done faster than in Canada. They can also check in to luxury resort hospitals that protect your privacy. Our public health care system doesn't offer an all expense paid luxury option for rich people. <br /><br />Switzerland is also popular. <br />Larry Moranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05756598746605455848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-46422155410567619122013-03-25T08:37:48.505-04:002013-03-25T08:37:48.505-04:00I can only add anecdotal and personal evidence, wh...I can only add anecdotal and personal evidence, when my mother was diagnosed with a pituitary tumour (benign but causing excess production of growth hormone resulting in acromeglia) she went down to Buffalo (from the Toronto area) for a fancy, new (at the time) multi radiation beam treatment that used lower power and allowed the tumour to be more precisely targeted and thus providing a better outcome than other treatments. My understanding was that this was not available in Canada at the time.<br /><br />I would also add that many of our Canadian politicians seem to have a preference for treatment in the US, based on (objective and accurate I'm sure) media coverage.<br /><br />But I think in general the system works quite well and it probably makes sense for the Canadian system to use excess or unavailable medical resources in the US when the situation calls for it.steve oberskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14067724166134333068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-40841300993189133692013-03-25T06:53:03.123-04:002013-03-25T06:53:03.123-04:00@DK,
I wonder why he said that? Is it because he ...@DK,<br /><br />I wonder why he said that? Is it because he would enjoy paying several hundred thousand dollars to Americans for the same result he could get in Canada for free? Or is it because there are so many cancer quacks in the USA who aren't allowed to practice in Canada and he wants to try non-scientific medicine?<br /><br />As far as I know, there's no evidence that the average cancer patient gets better treatment in the USA than in Canada or several dozen other countries.Larry Moranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05756598746605455848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-11764561180182568312013-03-24T22:20:20.028-04:002013-03-24T22:20:20.028-04:00Yes that's true.
But there also seems to be ...Yes that's true. <br /><br />But there also seems to be a more fundamental difference as well. I've noticed that in the U.S. to get elected one must usually talk about, and make a show of, their faith in god while in Canada that would be the surest path to not getting elected. Its a reflection of the differing levels of fundamentalism in the two countries I guess. SRMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07299706694667706149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-51610780024275924842013-03-24T19:35:10.627-04:002013-03-24T19:35:10.627-04:00@DK
For a valuable resource in the battle against...@DK<br /><br />For a valuable resource in the battle against religious intrusions into end of life choices I suggest Eric MacDonald's fine blog - Choice in Dying - Arguing for the right to die and against the religious obstruction of that right.<br /><br />http://choiceindying.com/steve oberskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14067724166134333068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-2318527528405589592013-03-24T15:27:10.023-04:002013-03-24T15:27:10.023-04:00several US states have end of life legislation all...<i>several US states have end of life legislation allowing for personal end of life choices</i><br /><br />Which is a good thing. I suspect that you are not aware of how much pain and suffering people on terminal care frequently have to go through without those. DKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03332861863615595162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-62622648718283673432013-03-24T15:21:33.888-04:002013-03-24T15:21:33.888-04:00True story: we had a Canadian postdoc in the lab a...True story: we had a Canadian postdoc in the lab at some point. I once asked him which medical setup he likes better. His answer: "For regular stuff, I like Canada's system better but if I ever have cancer, I'd much prefer to be treated in the US"<br /><br />DKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03332861863615595162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-50714657996024431132013-03-24T07:03:47.391-04:002013-03-24T07:03:47.391-04:00Trying reading the forum pages of Free Republic (a...Trying reading the forum pages of Free Republic (as I do every few days, to get my fill of crazy) and you will meet the people who actually think the Palins and Bachmanns of this world are the real heroes, are presidential material and, at least in the case of Palin, will indeed be president one day.<br /><br />Its tough to believe these people actually exist. But also throw in a bunch of constituents who vote only by name recognition and there you go!SRMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07299706694667706149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-70856811032652871102013-03-24T05:33:47.244-04:002013-03-24T05:33:47.244-04:00It amazes me that anyone would vote for such a loo...It amazes me that anyone would vote for such a loon:<br /><br />http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2010/05/9-michele-bachmann.html<br />The whole truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219999357041824471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-76833837862266632722013-03-23T14:30:17.053-04:002013-03-23T14:30:17.053-04:00Steve is right.
In my nearest big town there was ...Steve is right. <br />In my nearest big town there was an attempt to merge the Catholic hospital with the non-affiliated hospital. When the public found out what restictions on treatment options (birth control, abortion, vasectcomy, hysterectomy, end of life) the Catholic board was imposing on the secular hospital, merger talks ceased.<br /><br />I feel we missed the bullet. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-9292762136249335842013-03-23T14:18:38.667-04:002013-03-23T14:18:38.667-04:00Sadly true, Harriet. Also of interest is the whol...Sadly true, Harriet. Also of interest is the whole 'death panels' thing - it is as if these people think that every - EVERY - health insurance company does NOT have groups of people that determine whether or not certain procedures will be covered and if so, how much they will cover. They rely on the gullibility and ignorance of their constituents and target audience, and sadly, such folk seem to deliver on a regular basis.nmanninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14767343547942014627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-12506976719374324302013-03-23T10:34:23.823-04:002013-03-23T10:34:23.823-04:00I wasn't aware of this... Most hospitals are b...I wasn't aware of this... Most hospitals are becoming part of bigger hospital systems for a better regional presence and effective alignment for ACO's as part of the Meaningful Use guidelines.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06679938903940247915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-43565780751309890572013-03-23T09:57:07.646-04:002013-03-23T09:57:07.646-04:00In response to an FEC inquiry, MICHELEPAC Treasure...<i> In response to an FEC inquiry, MICHELEPAC Treasurer Barry Arrington acknowledged in a letter today that the PAC “erroneously omitted credit card contributions” that should have appeared on its monthly disclosure report in February. (The PAC has filed an amended report including nearly $52,000 in missing contributions.)<br /><br />The FEC, in a July 7 letter, dinged MICHELEPAC for what it says is incomplete employer or occupation information for some of its donors. “You must provide the missing information, or if you are unable to do so, you must demonstrate that ‘best efforts’ have been used to obtain the information,” FEC Senior Campaign Finance Analyst Edward Ryan wrote.<br /><br />Arrington wrote back today to say that information about several donations have been amended, and that in general, MICHELEPAC has made “best efforts” to obtain identifying information.</i><br /><br />That's the honest citizen who banned me from UD! Creationist criminals.Diogeneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15551943619872944637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-87453784025925032372013-03-23T09:51:27.394-04:002013-03-23T09:51:27.394-04:00On June 3, 2010, Short established C&M Strateg...<i> On June 3, 2010, Short established C&M Strategies in Colorado. Records on file with the Colorado secretary of state list Short as the "registered agent" of the firm; the incorporator was Colorado certified public accountant Barry Arrington.</i><br /><br />Arrington is a crooked CPA? I thought he was a crooked lawyer.Diogeneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15551943619872944637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-53141093786759985462013-03-23T08:29:27.796-04:002013-03-23T08:29:27.796-04:00The best quote I've read recently.
She really...The best quote I've read recently.<br /><br /><i>She really would like to impose some sort of libertarian theocracy, where the government has not authority to regulate anything beyond the stoning of abortionists and homosexuals.-Alex Pareene.</i><br />SRMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07299706694667706149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-85883314836072478102013-03-23T06:37:50.186-04:002013-03-23T06:37:50.186-04:00IDiot barry arrington worked (maybe still does?) f...IDiot barry arrington worked (maybe still does?) for bachman:<br /><br />http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59494.html<br /><br />http://www.minnpost.com/minnpotus/2011/06/roll-call-bachmann-used-taxpayer-money-2009-rally<br /><br />They make a lovely IDiot couple, don't they? <br /><br /><br /><br />The whole truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219999357041824471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-69860486626539145482013-03-22T20:37:04.853-04:002013-03-22T20:37:04.853-04:00I had a sinus operation last year in a Sisters of ...I had a sinus operation last year in a Sisters of Charity Catholic hospital = not my choice, but it was what was available. In the pre-op room as I was captive in my gurney with various things attached me, an oldish Sister went around praying over everyone, including me. I wanted to ask, "I'm just here for a routine sinus operation - is there something about this place that I should know?" But it wouldn't have been polite, in their house. Basically, it just added another layer of bureaucracy to an already-bureaucratic system. And oh yes, Sisters of Charity or not, I did get a substantial bill, as well as onto their mailing list for donations. (Fair enough, I suppose.)<br /><br />Bachmann, Sessions, and their ilk - what can I say, except the average IQ of the human race is only 100, and even the smart ones are good at fooling themselves. In fact, I think the main method most of us learn things is by making mistakes. That works in endeavors like computer-programming, engineering, science and education because someone or something (e.g., your computer, in the case of computer programming) will show you that mistakes have been made, but in some other fields the mistakes aren't acknowledged so the learning doesn't happen.JimVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10198704789965278981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-89999792801350947542013-03-22T17:22:12.565-04:002013-03-22T17:22:12.565-04:00It was only about 175,000 Americans who did the di...It was only about 175,000 Americans who did the dirty deed last time and, trust me, people in the civilized parts of the USA are equally puzzled by some of the things she says. John Pierethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17336244849636477317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-55827807962617886132013-03-22T16:46:50.252-04:002013-03-22T16:46:50.252-04:00It is a fact the US Catholic church is acquiring U...It is a fact the US Catholic church is acquiring US hospitals and is imposing catholic dogma on those forced to use their services, and I do mean forced in the sense that quite often there are no viable non catholic health care alternatives in the vicinity and/or catholic dogma is forced on patients without their knowledge by withholding information on the religiously mandated policies of the hospital.<br /><br />What this translates to in real life, for example, is women being denied abortions until fetal heartbeat cessation, assuming they can get an abortion at all, putting the women at much greater risk.<br /><br />I don't mean to imply that Americans should not be concerned about attempts to subvert a US national health coverage system, but those concerned about so called "Obamacare death panels" would be better off investing their concern on real threats to their health and not faux threats as fantasized by delusional and evil idiots like Bachmann.<br /><br />As for takeover versus merger, I agree that this was a rhetorical ploy on my part to cast the catholic church worst possible light, not that they need my help in this matter.steve oberskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14067724166134333068noreply@blogger.com