tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post697423505442121451..comments2024-03-27T14:50:47.345-04:00Comments on <center>Sandwalk</center>: Bill Dembski, Isaac Asimov, and The Second Law of ThermodynamicsLarry Moranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05756598746605455848noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-22753700178904721362012-02-27T01:28:54.029-05:002012-02-27T01:28:54.029-05:00Meanwhile, I hate the description of the second la...Meanwhile, I hate the description of the second law as having something to do with "disorder" (whatever that is). While an increase in entropy may correlate with things that to the human aesthetic seem "untidy," a messy room or a shuffled deck of cards has no more entropy than neat versions of the same, yet these examples are often used to explain entropy. "Energy dispersal" is a much better metaphor.Timothyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02460524109125297963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-86406136126418269882010-05-23T17:03:28.026-04:002010-05-23T17:03:28.026-04:00Probably Bill Dembski forgot that there is zero la...Probably Bill Dembski forgot that there is zero law (temperature principle) which, I guess, stimulate the process of biological evolution.Dalius Balciunasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-15939988739514991872010-05-23T07:00:58.421-04:002010-05-23T07:00:58.421-04:00A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. It...<i>A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. It can convince you that an argument this idiotic and this sloppy is actually profound. It can convince you to publicly make a raging jackass out of yourself, by rambling on and on, based on a stupid misunderstanding of a simplified, informal, intuitive description of something complex.</i> -- Mark Chu-Carroll <br /><br />http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2010/05/the_danger_when_you_dont_know.phpAlexander Kruelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01642702020137086489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-28776969531138088542010-05-23T05:39:30.637-04:002010-05-23T05:39:30.637-04:00It would be interesting to see the world through &...It would be interesting to see the world through 'entropy goggles(TM)' <br /><br />I'm not a physicist so I'm guessing... but presumably the sun would still look very bright. The air would twinkle with thermal disorder. People would appear quite a bit dimmer because there is a great deal of order being maintained (at least in the short term). A time lapse sequence of a fertilised egg growing into an adult would look like a growing blot of darkness - but presumably surrounded by a halo (oh the irony!) of brightness as order is abstracted from food leaving greater 'waste' entropy. <br /><br />Now extend the time lapse photography to a species....<br /><br />Want to borrow my entropy specs Dr. Dr. Dembski?DiscoveredJoyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05300239909689336895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-3907500866241592022010-05-23T01:44:09.369-04:002010-05-23T01:44:09.369-04:00The irony of course is that God is the ultimate vi...<i>The irony of course is that God is the ultimate violator of the 2nd law. But don't let that stop you, Dumbski!</i> Don't forget the first law! Any interaction between an immaterial being or soul and matter such as your body (mind/body problem) violates the 1st law of thermodynamics because 'new' energy enters the closed system of the universe. How something that isn't energy such as a immaterial mind can generate energy to interact with the body can be explained must be a put down to a miracle I suspect. Every banal thought that's lead me to move a digit or scratch or stretch is therefore a miracle. Lot's of them happening then, guess miracles aren't so uncommon.Briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-51856779799303237532010-05-23T00:01:16.986-04:002010-05-23T00:01:16.986-04:00The irony of course is that God is the ultimate vi...The irony of course is that God is the ultimate violator of the 2nd law. But don't let that stop you, Dumbski!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-20032670767374912782010-05-22T21:51:43.819-04:002010-05-22T21:51:43.819-04:00snowflakes form, don't they? And yes, a "...snowflakes form, don't they? And yes, a "ram pump" can make water run uphill without any outside mechanical engine.Harriethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17953435368705942387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-40112259953135970792010-05-22T20:04:31.484-04:002010-05-22T20:04:31.484-04:00Asimov wrote a famous short story about a big-time...Asimov wrote a famous short story about a big-time violation of the second law of thermodynamics.<br />http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html<br />I've always enjoyed this one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com