tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post6940845086579791421..comments2024-03-27T14:50:47.345-04:00Comments on <center>Sandwalk</center>: IDiots and TelomeresLarry Moranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05756598746605455848noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-16847490816595988312009-10-06T23:39:59.746-04:002009-10-06T23:39:59.746-04:00Once you see the phrase "irreducibly complex&...Once you see the phrase "irreducibly complex", you can stop reading. You already know the paper is garbage.<br /><br />On another subject:<br />Will there be PAYBACK for Dr. Tiller? Will there be COUNTERTERROR against right-to-lifers? When it happens, will it be murder, or JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE? WHO would be the most effective and deserving TARGETS for anti-right-to-lifist counterterror? WHERE do they LIVE?<br /><br />operationcounterstrike.blogspot.comOperationCounterstrikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11877707857942926743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-69839103490283071382009-10-06T16:45:22.420-04:002009-10-06T16:45:22.420-04:00Were one to design the encoded DNA “blueprint” of ...<i>Were one to design the encoded DNA “blueprint” of life, would not one incorporate ways to preserve that “blueprint”?</i><br /><br />A typical instance of the fallacy of affirmation of the consequent that infests IDiot-think. "If there were a God, he would have made the world the way it is. The world is as it is. Therefore there is a God." And once again they combine the major logic fail with ignorance about how the world is -- evidence that argues <i>against</i> it being a product of God.<br /><br /><i>The Nobel prize in medicine has just been awarded for discovery of features that look amazingly like design to preserve chromosomes ....</i><br /><br />That's swell but, for the billionth time, IDiot, Darwin showed that design does not necessitate a designer. <br /><br /><i>These telomeres can probably be shown to be essential to survival, and are likely to be irreducibly complex.</i><br /><br />Uh, its seems to me that we've dealt with this issue before. Apparently a functional memory is not essential to the survival of IDiots.<br /><br /><i>If so, how can macro evolution explain the origin of this marvelous preservation feature that appears to be an Intelligent Design?</i><br /><br />Uh, by the antecedent of the conditional being false, for one thing.Marcel Kincaidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-66945997451212943702009-10-06T16:27:41.531-04:002009-10-06T16:27:41.531-04:00I want to join one of the Anonymouses in thanking ...I want to join one of the Anonymouses in thanking you for a very clear and interesting explanation. What I learned reading this post and Jackie's comment about topoisomerase will probably be my 'insight of the week' and I live for insights.<br /><br />This post and comments are an example of the value, at its very best, of debunking creationism.Mike from Ottawanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-69382218752937047512009-10-06T15:30:13.823-04:002009-10-06T15:30:13.823-04:00So the ID'ers are saying that telomeres are LI...So the ID'ers are saying that telomeres are LIKELY to be irreducibly complexed, thus macroevolution can't occur . Was just curious if they are planning to do any personal research on telomeres or just throw out 'it is likely' and then jump to erroneous conclusions .How about just a smidge of research ? A days worth even.<br /><br />Brian RutledgeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-23908597493377850832009-10-06T14:46:29.659-04:002009-10-06T14:46:29.659-04:00Thank you, Jackie.
I'm sorry I never paid bet...Thank you, Jackie.<br /><br />I'm sorry I never paid better attention in biochem <em>&c</em>.<br /><br />At least I was right, that it would otherwise be a problem.Jens Knudsen (Sili)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14078875730565068352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-33036006017602474872009-10-06T13:12:36.043-04:002009-10-06T13:12:36.043-04:00I just posted about telomeres as evidence against ...I just posted about telomeres as evidence against intelligent design a couple days ago! My description for why they are needed focuses more on why DNA has to be copied in the 5' to 3' direction. In case anyone's interested: http://jackal-eyes.blogspot.com/2009/09/unintelligent-design.html<br /><br />Divalent, thank for linking the animation - will add on to my post.<br /><br />Sili, an enzyme called topoisomerase takes care of the the unwinding long macromolecules problem: it breaks the DNA, lets the one part unwind, and then rejoins it.Jachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01622919505576895393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-70557303998591451632009-10-06T12:30:00.989-04:002009-10-06T12:30:00.989-04:00Is that lovely animation of the duplication accura...Is that lovely animation of the duplication accurate? I'd think it was impossible to 'spin' the effectively infinitely long doublestrand. Isn't it more physically/topologically sensible that the apparatus is spinning around the strand? (I know this would make for a poor picture, so I'm not complaining about the film, just the explanation.)Jens Knudsen (Sili)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14078875730565068352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-29131785510526779562009-10-06T12:01:21.551-04:002009-10-06T12:01:21.551-04:00In Drosophila there are no telomeres and there isn...<i>In Drosophila there are no telomeres and there isn't a telomerase, Instead, the chromosome ends are protected by multiple copies of defective transposons.</i><br /><br />But this shows that IDiot DLH is correct! Who, after all, is Lord of the Flies? It ain't God! ;)Steve LaBonnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05315820864846104986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-32844726996354928112009-10-06T10:58:29.479-04:002009-10-06T10:58:29.479-04:00I would like to thank you for a clear and concise ...I would like to thank you for a clear and concise explanation of the DNA shortening problem. I had heard this happened before and never got the hang of why it happened. This is the first description I have read that I could understand (not being a Biologist). All I can say now is Doh!<br /><br />As for ID, really what did you expect?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-34484510654996805592009-10-06T10:49:43.624-04:002009-10-06T10:49:43.624-04:00< They don't get things right very often bu...< They don't get things right very often but when they rush into print their track record is even worse.><br /><br />http://bethelburnett.blogspot.com/2009/10/rottweiler-who-lost-his-teeth-his-mind.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-72404554057651681192009-10-05T22:36:09.189-04:002009-10-05T22:36:09.189-04:00Regarding the problem of copying two oppositely or...Regarding the problem of copying two oppositely oriented single strands of DNA as they unwind from the double stranded parent, the link below is to a fantastic animation that illustrates the process.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jtmOZaIvS0<br /><br />(sorry, I don't know the geek code to make the URL clickable)Divalentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-42868190417218043312009-10-05T22:29:32.336-04:002009-10-05T22:29:32.336-04:00And worse, the circular genomes need to figure out...And worse, the circular genomes need to figure out if recombination has made their circular genome dimeric. See also: xer/difAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-62205810326603268162009-10-05T18:26:40.318-04:002009-10-05T18:26:40.318-04:00@Rosie,
Linear genomes have to deal with that pro...@Rosie,<br /><br />Linear genomes have to deal with that problem as well. Obviously, linear chromosomes can't be topologically linked the way circular ones can, but daughter chromosomes still get highly entangled. There simply isn't room in the cell for the daughter chromosomes to unwrap spontaneously. Some kind of topoII activity is required.qetzalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-29930970429473301152009-10-05T17:16:39.447-04:002009-10-05T17:16:39.447-04:00Of course, circular genomes have had to solve a di...Of course, circular genomes have had to solve a different intrinsic replication problem, the intertangling of the daughter chromosomes.Rosie Redfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06807912674127645263noreply@blogger.com