tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post140958337281387117..comments2024-03-27T14:50:47.345-04:00Comments on <center>Sandwalk</center>: Does God Exist? A DebateLarry Moranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05756598746605455848noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-15500994549120952332010-07-21T08:44:00.641-04:002010-07-21T08:44:00.641-04:00Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of h...Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-20109300311768726582009-01-29T09:22:00.000-05:002009-01-29T09:22:00.000-05:00Lane Craig contributed a chapter to The Cambridge ...Lane Craig contributed a chapter to <I>The Cambridge Companion to Atheism</I>(Cambridge University Press, 2006), in which he summarised the current state of arguments for theism. I gather that there is no argument for God that Lane Craig does not find convincing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-82873464957367085892009-01-28T22:39:00.000-05:002009-01-28T22:39:00.000-05:00I completely agree with Larry and the general cons...I completely agree with Larry and the general consensus that debating theists is difficult because their arguments are simpler, more intuitive (man is naturally supersitious, it takes a lot of training to be logical) and backed up by centuries of tradition. <BR/><BR/>However regardless of the difficult it's still crucial for academics to tackle theists head on by debating them wherever they are; theism won't be put in it's place if the handful of people qualified to expose it avoid confrontations because they feel the terms are unfair. This is where the debate gets more political and less rigourous: it's more important to get the message of rationality out there than it is to ensure it is communicated in all it's sophistication and nuance. <BR/><BR/>So I'm very grateful to Jim Brown for doing these debates, even if it's considered an unpleasant task by some academics (not Larry Moran, but others who can't be bothered to deal with theists).Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03022471031427195946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-2879066778908877622009-01-28T16:30:00.000-05:002009-01-28T16:30:00.000-05:00Ample info on the web about Craig exists and attes...Ample info on the web about Craig exists and attests to his accomplishments as a debater. You can also easily find transcripts of old debates. My reading of him is that he is frightened of death and his belief in christianity is his only defense against that fear. He is also part of the Biola University group who believe humans were specially created in god's image and have absolutely no connection with animals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-59918625623001890442009-01-28T13:14:00.000-05:002009-01-28T13:14:00.000-05:00Bayesian Bouffant, FCD says,Being smart and doing ...Bayesian Bouffant, FCD says,<BR/><BR/><I>Being smart and doing well in public debates are not always the same thing.</I><BR/><BR/>That's right. It's the point that many of us having been making for several decades when we caution against debating creationists. I wish PZ Myers had taken that advice.<BR/><BR/>Debating the existence of God is a different situation. I've seen Brown in action and he did a fine job. <BR/><BR/>Apparently, he didn't do such a good job last night.Larry Moranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05756598746605455848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-3446975654859986142009-01-28T13:02:00.000-05:002009-01-28T13:02:00.000-05:00Jim Brown is an atheist philosopher and a very, ve...<I>Jim Brown is an atheist philosopher and a very, very smart man. I almost feel sorry for William Lane Craig.</I><BR/><BR/>Being smart and doing well in public debates are not always the same thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-10518548150716430772009-01-27T22:47:00.000-05:002009-01-27T22:47:00.000-05:00I went AND managed to get in. It was pretty damn m...I went AND managed to get in. It was pretty damn mind numbing and frustrating. <BR/><BR/>William Craig used all the usual arguments you see from the Jesus Brigade. He basically went: cosmological argument > fine tuning > objective morality > historicity of Jesus' resurrection proves that the moral creator is the Christian god (!?!?)> I believe in a personal god and it makes me happy therefore it's true. <BR/><BR/>Jim Brown spent almost all of his time on the defensive and let Craig get away with way too much, IMO. Although, in his defense, Craig was making very simplistic arguments that required little explination, while Brown's rebuttals seemed to require much more than the meagre time given. Also, Brown's Platonic argument for objective morality left me highly unimpressed.LostMarbleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07123440130769897997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-54037499217031803802009-01-27T18:40:00.000-05:002009-01-27T18:40:00.000-05:00I'm sad. It was sold out when I got there.I'm sad. It was sold out when I got there.Devinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01119444616659234057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37148773.post-77157465168647716742009-01-27T16:39:00.000-05:002009-01-27T16:39:00.000-05:00If it the same Jim Brown, he was once a panelist o...If it the same Jim Brown, he was once a panelist on Paikin's show, along with Paul Nelson, Jerry Coyne and Dennis Lamoureux. I was impressed. He didn't let Nelson or Lamoureux get away with anything.Eamon Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04262012749524758120noreply@blogger.com