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Saturday, February 14, 2009

Jerry Coyne Meets Ken Miller

 
Read about it on Coyne's blog [Darwin Day, Philadelphia. 1. I meet Ken Miller].
At any rate, after dinner I met Ken and we chatted about things. The first thing he said to me was that one of his friends advised him to break a beer bottle over my head, which was more than a little intimidating when imparted to me by a guy well over six feet tall looking down on my puny five-foot-eight self! But we discussed our differences, tried to iron out misunderstandings on both of our parts, and amiably shook hands. We will never agree on the science-versus-faith thing, but on most issues we are on the same side, and I admire him in many ways. I was glad that we met.
I'd love to have been there.


3 comments :

Anonymous said...

Sorry you weren't Larry. But my biggest beef with Jerry was that he wrote (in his New Republic review) that I shared 3 out of 4 characteristics with creationists. He's wrong about that. I share one out of 4 with them (I believe in God).... and that's it.

Best Wishes,

Ken Miller

Larry Moran said...

Ken Miller says,

... he wrote .. that I shared 3 out of 4 characteristics with creationists. He's wrong about that. I share one out of 4 with them (I believe in God)....

The other two were; "the intervention of God in nature, and a special role for God in the evolution of humans." I thought Coyne was correct.

Don't you believe in a personal God? I thought you accepted miracles, which to my mind is believing that God intervenes in nature.

I thought you believed that humans have a soul and they have a special relationship with God? I realize that you don't think that humans were inevitable but I thought you believed that some sort of intelligent, conscious being was destined to evolve once God set things up.

To my mind that qualifies as the third belief.

gregladen said...

August Berkshire, of Minnesota Atheist fame, has written a review of Ken Miller's talk in the Twin cities. The post is "Losing Miller's God." It is getting a certain amount of attention.